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The "Cruel" God

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Theland | 08:14 Sun 03rd Feb 2008 | Society & Culture
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I believe in a kind and loving God, the Creator of all there is.
The God of the Bible.
Deny Him at your peril.
In the O/T Gods' actions are questioned by todays atheists, but God built a nation using human strengths and weaknesses. The Jews. An amazing people with an amazing history, foretold in scripture.
Using human intervention in His nation building, God allowed ethnic cleansing and genocide, and indeed ordered it.
Should we judge God for this? Or should we trust in His higher majestic wisdom, as we ask our children to trust in us?
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well if you put your trust into God, then He created those Muslims that you profess to hate.

It is a shame that people keep 'trusting' that there is an afterlife and all will be better there than trying to make the best out of this life.

As a prime example, you seem to believe that you are religious and you try to convert people to your religion.

But at the same time, you show disrespect for other people and profess hatred for them.

You are also selfish in your words against those more unfortunate that you.

Would be a much nicer world if people stopped thinking about the next life and concentrated on this one.
Good morning Theland, you believe in a kind and loving God, and yet in the first few lines of your question you've told us to deny him at our peril? Bit of a contradiction isn't it.

Where is this higher, majestic wisdom you refer to? I see no evidence of it whatsoever. And yes, we should judge this God on his record. Loving he isn't - or wasn't - and how anyone can condone his actions, let alone worship and adore him, is beyond my comprehension.

What's this question doing here, anyway, Theland? Is R&S spreading its wings to reach a wider audience?
Why blame 'him' for how we chose to live our lives and the path we have taken. He may have created us, but I am afraid we are responsible for the rest.
No such thing as God or Gods. It or they were created ages ago to explain happenings that could not be explained at the time. Only believe in yourselve and those you have faith in.
Toby, it's true that we decide how to live our lives, but that hardly addresses the question, does it? Should he be judged on his (appalling) record, and should we trust in what Theland sees as his 'higher, majestic wisdom'?
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Oops - posted it on the wrong topic - never mind.
As far as muslims are concerned, I do hate their AK47 and bomb belt orientated religion, but have no particular hatred for muslims, the people, just their stupid paedophile religion.
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Interesting how the Jews and their foretold history attracts little comment?
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Postdog - You expressed a belief, as did I.
A belief!
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toby99 - I agree.
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When Corrie Ten Boom was a little girl, standing at the railway station, she asked her father a question about sex.
He asked her to carry his case on to the train. It was too heavy and she couldn't lift it. Her father said that the answer to her question was also too heavy for her to bear, but one day she would be strong enough to know the answer.
Doesn't that ring a bell or two?
Off to bed now. Nights. Speak later.
As I said - no respect for other people's view (in fact over 1/5th population of the globe).

By calling other religions names, all you are doing is showing childish, immature behaviour.

As Winston Churchill said, if you have to resort to insults, then you have already lost your argument.

Answerbank rules (as well as most people's morality) dictates that you treat others with respect.

You have shown that not only can you not respect the rules on AB, but you can't even act in a civilised manner.

This is (in my opinion) one of the main reasons that people no longer attend church - the hypocrisy of those who state that they practice it.
Islam is a paedophile religion? I think you are confusing this with the Roman Catholic priesthood, who - sorry if I have this wrong - are Christians.
As a matter of interest Theland, what percentage of paedophiles are Christians as opposed to Muslims?
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Theland, you often mention the ' prophesies' of the bible, and I have seen you asked (but I don't recall you ever giving a firm answer) for details of these other than the Jewish homecoming and the formation of Israel.............

Could you take the opportunity to do so, now........... ?


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"I believe in a kind and loving God, the Creator of all there is."

Which religion is this drawn from, please? I don't recognise it.

"The God of the Bible."

Oh, ok. It was a joke.

"Deny Him at your peril."

Kind and loving, that's God. Mmm-mmm. Yessiree.

'Ahhhhh!' you say, 'But God is like a parent who tells their child not to chew razor blades because it will cut their mouth to pieces. It's not the parent's fault if the child disobeys, is it?'

'Ahhhhhhhhhh, no - ahhhhhhh back, with no returns, because that analogy is stupid. The parent didn't create razorblades and razorblades have a perfectly benign function. What would be a proper analogy would be if the parent had invented razorblades specifically to teach children a lesson about what happens if you disagree with Daddy, in which case, Daddy would be a violent psychopath who deserved no respect. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.'

"In the O/T Gods' actions are questioned by todays atheists, but God built a nation using human strengths and weaknesses."

Can you say 'non-sequiteur'? What does the first statement have to do with the second?

"The Jews. An amazing people with an amazing history, foretold in scripture."

Only in the most general terms. And, as Wizard points out above, wrongly.

"Using human intervention in His nation building, God allowed ethnic cleansing and genocide, and indeed ordered it."

Kind and loving...

"Should we judge God for this?"

Yes.

"Or should we trust in His higher majestic wisdom, as we ask our children to trust in us?"

I believe this has already been covered. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Hvae you ever looked into how a semi-important god in the (then) polytheistic Hebrew belief (a weather god I seem to remember) came to political promenence and was lauded as a creator?

It may once again call your attitude towards the Old Testament into question
Hi Theland,
My views on a Cruel God, or, a Loving and merciful God.

First, if there really is a God, I think God and the Devol are one and the same.

In the Old Testament, God was a God of war, a cruel God who ordered and carried out punishments killings and conquests, to put it mildly.

Not forgetting, that man was put on this Earth for the sole purpose of worshipping and obeying him.

God is supposed to know and planned everything that has happened, and is going to happen, to the end of time, he can stop tradegies, wars etc, but doesn't, although in the Old Testament, he did personally intervene, for good or bad, in the interests of 'his people'


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