Do I Have to Believe Evolution?

[Elderman]

Well,For 116 years it graced the halls of the National Museum of Wales at Cardiff—the fossilised skeleton of a 200m[illion]-year-old predator that once cruised the Jurassic seas,” says Britain’s newspaper The Guardian. “Then curators at Cardiff decided the remains of the ocean-going carnivore ichthyosaurus needed a brush up—and realised that they had been taken in.” “When we stripped off five layers of paint we found it was an elaborate forgery,” said conservator Caroline Buttler. “It was an amalgam of two types of ichthyosaurus plus a clever attempt at fake parts.” Instead of disposing of it, the museum will put it on display as an example of a fake fossil.

[jomifl]

In case anyone is a little confused Elderman is referring to my post on another thread where I said the following
'Humility does not involve having a submissive attitude, it involves not believing we are right all the time..try it sometime.'

[jomifl]

Elderman's cutting and pasting is getting out of hand, he is now cutting and pasting my posts, I shall take it as a compliment. :-)

[naomi24]

//You ought to know Naomi you say you Understand every think.[sic] //

Oooo, naughty Elderman. God's watching all you Christians and noting your transgressions in his 'Big Book of Big Fibs' you know. ;o)

[Elderman]

No, I have good reasons for my beliefs. To examining the basis consider If ultimate meaning in life were nonexistent, then you would have no purpose in living other than to try to do some measure of good and perhaps pass on your genetic traits to the next generation. At death, you would cease to exist forever. Your brain, with its ability to think, reason, and meditate on the meaning of life, would simply be an accident of nature.
That is not all. Many who believe in evolution assert that God does not exist or that he will not intervene in human affairs. In either case, our future would rest in the hands of political, academic, and religious leaders. Judging from the past record of such men, the chaos, conflict, and corruption that blight human society would continue. If, indeed, evolution were true, there would seem to be ample reason to live by the fatalistic motto: “Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we are to die.”......1 Corinthians 15:32.
By contrast, the Bible teaches: “With [God] is the source of life.” (Psalm 36:9) Those words have profound implications.

[starone]

Didn't I read somewhere that we were closer to pigs than monkeys. Now that I can believe.

[naomi24]

Elderman, I can't actually see where you find a correlation between extra-terrestrial life and your God - unless you think all extra-terrestrial life is spiritual - or your God is not.

[Elderman]

Really, is that all there is to your life? Look where you will in the world, the system seems to be ailing badly. It has its energy crises and runaway inflation, food shortages and pollution of the environment, revolutions, cold and hot wars, stockpiling of nuclear weapons, racial problems and surging discontent among the masses of mankind. No part of the earth is free from problems that pose a threat to human life and survival!

[naomi24]

What does any of that have to do with what I said? You talked about extra-terrestrial life relating to your God, and I'm questioning that.

[starone]

The fake fossil still had some genuine parts though didn't it. Two types of ichthyosaurus. I suppose in answer to elderman's question, he can believe what he likes but the evidence is still there and my personal belief is in evolution. If I needed anything to worship (which I don't) I would choose the earth or perhaps the sun as the two givers of life.

[jomifl]

Elderman.. once people like you start trying to use rational argument you have already lost the argument. If you understood how rational debate and logical deduction work you would never have believed in god in the first place.
If you want to debate the 'purpose of life' then start another thread as this one is cluttered enough already.

[beso]

If I had to worship I would probably choose an oircroft corrier.

[jomifl]

whot one with plones?

[beso]

That or a bottleship.

[Elderman]

It is good to know what one is worshiping.
It is high time that the peoples woke up as regards the value of their popular gods. Because persons are inclined to worship someone or something, even if it is to worship one’s own self. The person who sourly says, “I do not worship anybody or anything!” is really a worshiper of himself. He makes himself a human god, but due to his egotism he is unaware of that fact.

[beso]

You have posted that exact rubbish before, Elderman

[jomifl]

Elderman..can you explain how someone can 'worship themself' It is a trite phrase that is used quite often but it doesn't really mean anything does it? If you have some useful insight perhaps you would like to share it with us otherwise it wll be disregarded like most of your quotes.