Origin Of Information.

[Theland]

I believe all information originates in a mind.
If you disagree with this, any examples?

[naomi24]

Pixie, //A mind in a coma, does, woof//

Did you mean a mind in a coma 'doesn't'?

[Theland]

Who conveys all of the information you absorb every day? Minds!

[pixie374]

I meant a mind in a coma can have little cognisance and works on "low level"... although I may have used too many double negatives!

[pixie374]

That doesn't mean it originates there, theland. Conveying information is not the same thing.

[naomi24]

Pixie, //a mind in a coma can have little cognisance and works on "low level"...//

I don't think that's necessarily true. Similarly with victims of severe strokes. I don't believe we know enough about those conditions to reach that conclusion.

[pixie374]

It isn't necessarily true, no. But certainly possible. Ants have brains, but i have no idea how much they actually understand or how much is instinct.

[Theland]

You can try to split hairs and dance around the issue, but there is no getting away from the simple fact that information originates in a mind.

[naomi24]

Theland, and your point is?

[Old_Geezer]

The newspapers convey much. The general environment too.

[Theland]

My point is, somebody calls to pick up your shopping list which is blank.
Your shopper will only know what to buy if information that originates in your mind is verbally conveyed, or written down.

[Zacs-Master]

Woof, amoeba, plankton, and as pixie says many many insect species.

[Zacs-Master]

Woof, amoeba, plankton, and as pixie says many many insect species. I think you’re struggling with the term ‘cognisance’.

[Zacs-Master]

WTH!

[Zacs-Master]

‘Your shopper will only know what to buy if information that originates in your mind is verbally conveyed, or written down‘

Eeeergh. My head hurts.

[naomi24]

Theland, //Your shopper will only know what to buy if information that originates in your mind is verbally conveyed, or written down. //

And...?

[THECORBYLOON]

What if the message line is generated by a computer, based soley upon items bought previously?

Minds devised the program and algorithms but no mind actually produced the message line.

[Zacs-Master]

This is getting silly.

[Zacs-Master]

Sorry. What do I mean by ‘getting’ ;-)

[Theland]

Naomi - "And?"
Now you are being silly.
Count me out.

[THECORBYLOON]

I can put any data into a spreadsheet and the data are then analysed to be presented in any way I think fit.

Have I generated that information or has the program done it for me?