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With Brexit out of the way (?!) can we now turn to more momentous issues? I refer to those posed by St Augustine in reference to Creation; Who made it? By what means? & Why?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Theland - // The question is, who or what was the beginning? //
I see you are ignoring my posts now, but that does not negate the validity of the point I am making -
You constantly ask these questions over and over again - they are clearly seriously important to you, because you send so much time agonising over them.
Yet you still refuse to accept any of the answers given, that don't chime with your view, that 'God' made everything.
If you believe that, why are you not content with that? Why must you sway everyone to your viewpoint?
Why does it matter to you that people think as you do?
You should try my approach - I genuinely have no interest in where I came from or why I am here. I can't think my life will be enhanced one iota by such knowledge, so I spend my time enjoying my life.
You seem to spend your time wondering and hand-wringing, and getting into pointless fruitless arguments on here.
Why do you do it, is a more easily answered question - if you would like to address it?
I see you are ignoring my posts now, but that does not negate the validity of the point I am making -
You constantly ask these questions over and over again - they are clearly seriously important to you, because you send so much time agonising over them.
Yet you still refuse to accept any of the answers given, that don't chime with your view, that 'God' made everything.
If you believe that, why are you not content with that? Why must you sway everyone to your viewpoint?
Why does it matter to you that people think as you do?
You should try my approach - I genuinely have no interest in where I came from or why I am here. I can't think my life will be enhanced one iota by such knowledge, so I spend my time enjoying my life.
You seem to spend your time wondering and hand-wringing, and getting into pointless fruitless arguments on here.
Why do you do it, is a more easily answered question - if you would like to address it?
Andy - I am not ignoring you. Neither am I trying to bend anybody's viewpoint to agree with mine.
I am simply trying my best to answer questions put to me, nothing more, and offering my opinions.
I don't think you will find any threads on here started by me, for a while.
I am not trying to provoke anything.
I am simply trying my best to answer questions put to me, nothing more, and offering my opinions.
I don't think you will find any threads on here started by me, for a while.
I am not trying to provoke anything.
Shakespeare's plays gave no original information. Anyone can create a story, poem, play, from their existing knowledge and experience.
We were looking for "original information" though. And Shakespeare is no example of that. He used a mixture of what he was taught, his genetics, his talent, his education of English... etc. But it is not original information.
We were looking for "original information" though. And Shakespeare is no example of that. He used a mixture of what he was taught, his genetics, his talent, his education of English... etc. But it is not original information.
Theland - // Andy at 19:41 - You have made many points. Regarding your Moderator posts, they are wasted on me, Inhave no interest.
As for swaying others belief to my own, I simply express my opinion. //
I know that your perception of yourself is very different from the perception of others, myself included, but the post I would like a response to is this one -
// You seem to spend your time wondering and hand-wringing, and getting into pointless fruitless arguments on here.
Why do you do it, is a more easily answered question - if you would like to address it? //
Why do you argue fruitlessly day in day out?
As for swaying others belief to my own, I simply express my opinion. //
I know that your perception of yourself is very different from the perception of others, myself included, but the post I would like a response to is this one -
// You seem to spend your time wondering and hand-wringing, and getting into pointless fruitless arguments on here.
Why do you do it, is a more easily answered question - if you would like to address it? //
Why do you argue fruitlessly day in day out?
Of course we can be creative, theland. I am just saying that no "information" is created within our own minds. We learn, interpret, think etc, with what we pick up, but it is not original.
I would still please like to see an example of something that definitively is created within a mind. You do seem very sure of this, as you keep claiming it.... so I am equally sure you can explain and prove why x
I would still please like to see an example of something that definitively is created within a mind. You do seem very sure of this, as you keep claiming it.... so I am equally sure you can explain and prove why x
Andy at 20:58 - If science has an answer to the big questions, the origin of the universe, the origin of life, the proof and validity of evolution, then I am very interested.
I am not fruitlessly hand wringing but only showing a willingness to discuss and exchange ideas.
Up to now, I have not come across anything that science has to offer, to satisfy my curiosity.
Is that such a bad thing and reason to criticise me?
I am not fruitlessly hand wringing but only showing a willingness to discuss and exchange ideas.
Up to now, I have not come across anything that science has to offer, to satisfy my curiosity.
Is that such a bad thing and reason to criticise me?
Theland - // Is that such a bad thing and reason to criticise me? //
That is not why I criticise you - I criticise you for being unable to accept that there are other points of view that do not involve God, or indeed involve nothing at all, such as mine.
You feel free to criticise me for my view - calling me ignorant as I recall, I simply return the compliment.
That is not why I criticise you - I criticise you for being unable to accept that there are other points of view that do not involve God, or indeed involve nothing at all, such as mine.
You feel free to criticise me for my view - calling me ignorant as I recall, I simply return the compliment.