Are You Saved?

[fiveleaves]

And if so, How do you know?

[fiveleaves]

Nailit, "For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect" (Matthew ch24v24)
I think the words "if possible" are significant in that verse

[nailit]

fiveleaves,
your questions are just as relevent as goodlifes.
And yet you both have antagonising theologies!
From the same book for goodness sakes.

So who do you suggest I believe and why????

[fiveleaves]

Atheist, I dont know you and I dont make the rules. If I am consistent with my faith I would say you need to be born again by that I mean you need to accept Jesus before you die.

[nailit]

//I think the words "if possible" are significant in that verse//
Go on then....

[fiveleaves]

Nailit, I think you know the answer to that one!

[nailit]

//Nailit, I think you know the answer to that one!//
Your also a mind reader now.
OK?

[douglas9401]

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/woman-believes-in-life-after-death-but-not-in-a-ridiculous-christian-way-20160519108931

[Khandro]

Atheist; //Khandro and fiveleaves; If I said that I'd heard God and he told me that you were both wrong and that I was right, what would you think? I may be wrong, but I think you would think I was deluded.//

Wrong about what?

[naomi24]

Khandro, I understand atheist’s question. It’s not difficult. Try again.

By the way, are you ‘saved’?

[goodlife]

My conscious tells me that no one should be tortured.

What you hear is, all going on in Ukraine where they are raping the women and hanging them.
Are they atheist too?

[Khandro]

n. //By the way, are you ‘saved’?//

So far, so good!

[naomi24]

I don't think fiveleaves it talking about 'so far', Khandro, but rather that which he thinks is to come.

[Peter Pedant]

5 is a nardy nardy bye and knew I wd look it up
εἰ δυνατὸν,
if it is possible...

or as someone else lampoons: "googly googly, he is good at googling this stuff - it is all a bit gobbledeegooky to me"

we have had - and if you believe in me and that he had been resurrected, then you will have ever lasting life?

seems OK to me - you believe it or no

[Peter Pedant]

the NT is full of it..... if you believe - then you will be saved

why is everyone making heavy weather of it as tho you know they hadnt read it before....

all we need now is TTT: so the pope is a roman catholic? righto!
( right along with - the NT - it is all greek to me!!!)

[Peter Pedant]

yeah I agree with Naomi - Ukraine isnt exactly paradise on earth ( seen TV see)

[vulcan42]

\\ What you hear is, all going on in Ukraine where they are raping the women and hanging them.
Are they atheist too?//

what I've just heard, goodlife, is a person I've known for forty years, just like you, a God fearing, ready to tell anybody how wrong they for not believing, has been sent to prison for being a pedophile.
Is he a christian too?

[Khandro]

vulcan, People of religion can sin just as people who aren't can,
Why do you think it could be otherwise?

[goodlife]

( been sent to prison for being a pedophile.
Is he a christian too?)

He should be put to death, and that what will happen when God Kingdom start on earth.

You pick bits out of the Bible which you don't believe anyway, why do you bother and when you do reply, is out of context. (Titus 1:2)

[fiveleaves]

I dont know why the Ukraine War has been brought into. There are a few Putin freaks around but thankfully there is near universal condemnation of the atrocities being committed by Russia in Ukraine.