I See The Notting Hill Crimathon Is In Full Swing...

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4332911/notting-hill-carnival-remembers-grenfell-tower-victims-silence/
33 arrests already, wonderful cultural event!

[Zacs-Master]

Immigrant is a far from innocent term. Especially when used incorrectly.

[THECORBYLOON]

SQAD you may think it an innocent description but someone whose family has been in the UK for four or five generations may say it's ignorant.

[anotheoldgit]

/// People threw paint and chocolate at each other, to represent the human need of abandoning their daily struggles. ///

Pass the paint and chocolate, some of us struggle daily to try and educate those who choose to bury their heads in the sand.

[Sqad]

Sorry, just taken the Mrs to the supermarket.

Zacs....kindly explain how i have used the term IMMIGRANT incorrectly. My definition is of someone who comes to live in a foreign country (to them) permanently.
Corby....yes, I agree, they may say it is ignorant, but you quote, four or five generations. I am not sure to what a generation refers but let me guess and say 25 years, so we are talking about blacks who have been in the UK for 100 or 125 years. In my experience, that would only account for a handful of blacks......I didn't see a black in Peterborough until the early 60's, but in London they were already established, so we may be talking about three generations at most.........but still, by my definition ..immigrants....not disparaging, not insulting, just what they and i am.....an IMMIGRANT and that is how i described NH.

[Zacs-Master]

Sqad, you wrote:
'why use the word "immigrants"...[ ] I thought hard as to how one would describe, a no white community and that word seemed the least offensive.

You clearly are of the opinion (another word you used) that all black people are immigrants. Someone else pointed out that this might be offensive to British born black families.

[Peter Pedant]

eek my parents were immigrants
and I am a pink anglo

my niece is thinking of re-immigrating after ten years in NZ

[Sqad]

Zacs

"You clearly are of the opinion (another word you used) that all black people are immigrants"

I do, as explained above and what is wrong with being an immigrant......I am one in Spain?

[Sqad]

Zacs

"Someone else pointed out that this might be offensive to British born black families."

Indeed, I also responded to that.

[Zacs-Master]

Absolutely nothing Sqad. But your use of the term applied to all black people is potentially offensive.

[Sqad]

Zacs......well I am sorry about that, but that is my opinion.

[Huderon]

Goodness me ! The cheek of it !

All those Johnny foreigners out enjoying themselves when they should be doing things like sweeping the streets, collecting rubbish, cleaning sewers and caring for grumpy pale-faced natives who think they deserve an inordinate amount of respect by virtue of being born here with a lineage which goes back to the dark ages.

It's just not the done thing !

[anotheoldgit]

This was supposed to be family day.

Can't see many children, only adults acting like children.

It was reported on the radio that during the period of silence in respect for the victims of the tower block fire, the beating of drums and the playing of music could still be heard.

There were also some taking selfies in front of Grenfell Tower, how macabre is that?

[Zacs-Master]

Yep, that's been established.

[anotheoldgit]

Zac-Master

/// Someone else pointed out that this might be offensive to British born black families. ///

You mean those who are proud to call themselves Black/British or Afro/ Caribbean?

[1ozzy]

LOL Huderon.

[Zacs-Master]

Precisely AOG.

[THECORBYLOON]

Black British is a description in the same way that white British is, both are British.

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, many may describe themselves as being a child OF an immigrant or FROM immigrant stock but they are not immigrants themselves.

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

If you say so.

[Zacs-Master]

You had a moment of clarity there AOG at 09:42. It was almost like you actually understood the concept of black British.