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Do You Think That Trump
will put up a big fuss if he loses? He has threatened to go to the Supreme Court to stop any late voting.
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It was decidedly odd last night.
Biden had gone from 75% to win down to 25%. Leftie sites in the US were crying into their muesli and cursing the DNC. Even our Jim, if he's honest, thought Trump had won.
Then there was a strange lull where nothing moved for an hour or two. And then an avalanche of votes swept in for Biden.
Could have all been a startling coincidence, I suppose stranger things have happened.
I'd be happy enough to see Trump lose now. There'd probably be less bloodshed to begin with.
And we could have a sweepstake on how long Biden will last as President.
Biden had gone from 75% to win down to 25%. Leftie sites in the US were crying into their muesli and cursing the DNC. Even our Jim, if he's honest, thought Trump had won.
Then there was a strange lull where nothing moved for an hour or two. And then an avalanche of votes swept in for Biden.
Could have all been a startling coincidence, I suppose stranger things have happened.
I'd be happy enough to see Trump lose now. There'd probably be less bloodshed to begin with.
And we could have a sweepstake on how long Biden will last as President.
// Even our Jim, if he's honest, thought Trump had won. //
I didn't go to bed feeling as confident as I had an hour earlier, at least.
I don't think that Biden's actual odds had dropped as low. Betting markets tend to move quicker, I suppose, than pre-election modelling -- for example, Trump's victory in Florida ruled out a Biden landslide, but not necessarily a Biden win of any kind.
Wish you'd stop with the implications of fraud, though. There's nothing in the patterns of when votes arrived over the count that was particularly shocking. Various states count early ballots at different times, and various demographics lean dramatically in one direction, so you'd expect to see surges for Biden or Trump as the night went on.
Imagine if the voting had stopped early in Texas, Ohio, and Florida, for example, when Biden was ahead. Biden was even leading in Missouri and Kansas at one point, because of such patterns. Somehow, I don't think Trump would have been quite as keen on declaring *those* states early.
In the meantime, we are still waiting for full results from seven states, of which four or five are still interesting, and right now it's still not out of the question that late votes lead to Trump just taking Michigan, Pennsylvania, and even (if his campaign is to be believed) Arizona. That would be enough for him to win after all.
I didn't go to bed feeling as confident as I had an hour earlier, at least.
I don't think that Biden's actual odds had dropped as low. Betting markets tend to move quicker, I suppose, than pre-election modelling -- for example, Trump's victory in Florida ruled out a Biden landslide, but not necessarily a Biden win of any kind.
Wish you'd stop with the implications of fraud, though. There's nothing in the patterns of when votes arrived over the count that was particularly shocking. Various states count early ballots at different times, and various demographics lean dramatically in one direction, so you'd expect to see surges for Biden or Trump as the night went on.
Imagine if the voting had stopped early in Texas, Ohio, and Florida, for example, when Biden was ahead. Biden was even leading in Missouri and Kansas at one point, because of such patterns. Somehow, I don't think Trump would have been quite as keen on declaring *those* states early.
In the meantime, we are still waiting for full results from seven states, of which four or five are still interesting, and right now it's still not out of the question that late votes lead to Trump just taking Michigan, Pennsylvania, and even (if his campaign is to be believed) Arizona. That would be enough for him to win after all.
I don't think it will matter what he (Biden) tries to do. The Republicans have the Senate. More likely that very little will happen for four years as the two parties continue to refuse to cooperate on anything.
That's kind of what I meant about an earlier comment about "everybody loses". The US is suffering from major political divisions, major divisions in all sorts of other ways too -- and a close win for Biden (or Trump, for that matter) does exactly nothing to address this. I'd have almost preferred a Trump landslide, in that sense (not really, but at least something so decisive forces radical change and allows the loser to reassess).
That's kind of what I meant about an earlier comment about "everybody loses". The US is suffering from major political divisions, major divisions in all sorts of other ways too -- and a close win for Biden (or Trump, for that matter) does exactly nothing to address this. I'd have almost preferred a Trump landslide, in that sense (not really, but at least something so decisive forces radical change and allows the loser to reassess).
"I fear Trump has severe mental health problems."
And you think poor old Biden doenst? Looks like pretty clear dementure to me, he should be at home enjoying what is left not propped up for the Dems. They should have found someone else who would have walked it. They have had four years to groom someone.
And you think poor old Biden doenst? Looks like pretty clear dementure to me, he should be at home enjoying what is left not propped up for the Dems. They should have found someone else who would have walked it. They have had four years to groom someone.
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