More Problems With The Vaccine

[Barsel]

A few people have had an allergic reaction to the vaccine so we are now being told people who have allergic reactions to some medicines, food etc might not be able to have it.I'm allergic to penicillin but don't know if this comes under significant allergy or not.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/people-who-suffer-significant-allergic-reactions-told-not-to-take-new-covid-19-vaccine/ar-BB1bLryM?li=BBoPWjQ

[Hopkirk]

There will always be some people who have a reaction. It's no big deal.

[dannyk13]

Looks like some will have to wait for the Oxford vaccine.

[Barsel]

Hopkirk you sound like sqad! I wouldn't call having an anaphylactic shock 'no big deal'.

[Bazile]

//UK regulators have issued a warning that people who have a history of “significant” allergic reaction...//

Allergic reaction to what - any vaccination ?

[Barsel]

Don't know Bazile, like other things, it isn't clear enough.In the article it says, medicines, food or vaccines.

[Ellipsis]

> I wouldn't call having an anaphylactic shock 'no big deal'.

I wasn't anaphylactic shock, it was "an anaphylactoid reaction - much milder than anaphylaxis - which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55244122

[237SJ]

Reminds me of the yellow fever jab. It is produced in egg cells so if you have an egg allergy, you can have an alergic reaction to it. Maybe the situation with the Covid jab is similar.

[ToraToraTora]

barsel 11:09, so what are you suggesting, no one has it case they hit someone with an allergy? Hopkirk is merely pointing out that nothing is 100% there will always be anomalies that does not mean the rest of us should not be vaccinated.

[Barsel]

Ellipsis, yes those 2 NHS workers had a anaphylactoid reaction, but if they carry an EpiPen around with them, then they must be classed as having a significant allergy to something?

[pixie374]

I saw this this morning as well. "Significant" would depend on how serious your reaction was, barsel.
So far, they seem to be saying they might need to avoid or take extra precautions for people with a history of serious food or medication allergies, or if you carry an epi-pen.
I would certainly discuss it with your GP, if anything seems relevant to you.

[Barsel]

TTT I'm not suggesting anything and have not stated anywhere that others should not be vaccinated. I merely want to find out what is considered a significant allergy.

[Peter Pedant]

// Maybe the situation with the Covid jab is similar.//
nope
abiogenic or whatever
no cells involved - only test tubes

oh and whilst I have my po-face on
You can measure the effect of saying "oo I am allergic I cant have penicillin" - the alternatives are not as good

so give 100 pen and 100 self declared dumbcluck scaredy cats on the alternative usually erythro
and er measure sort of who is dead at the end.
erythro scores higher

and so in covid - follow up 1000 no-thank-yous and see their self deserved fate - and watch them squeal ( those that are alive) "this cd have happened if I were vaccinated" ( I dont think!)

[Barsel]

Pixie, I had a anaphylactic shock after taking penicillin some years ago Fortunately my daughter was able to rush me to the hospital in time.
Whenever I go into hospital, they put a red warning bracelet on me and it is well documented in my notes. I am already booked to have a telephone conversation with my GP on the 15th, so hopefully she can advise me.

[teacake44]

( More problems with the vaccine) ? What other ones do they have?

[Peter Pedant]

well the answer is here

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/allergies/symptoms/#:~:text=Severe%20allergic%20reaction%20(anaphylaxis),something%20you're%20allergic%20to.

severe allergic reaction or SAA is anaphylactic shock

I tend to lie about mine on the grounds that I wont get as they pussy foot around excusing this and then - 'just to be sure' what I need

80% pen allergies arent

[Peter Pedant]

// What other ones do they have?// ( vacc problems)
getting it! hur hur hur

[pixie374]

I think it's going to depend so much on individual histories and previous reactions, there isn't necessarily going to be a clear line. I hope all goes well for you.

[Ellipsis]

> Ellipsis, yes those 2 NHS workers had a anaphylactoid reaction, but if they carry an EpiPen around with them, then they must be classed as having a significant allergy to something?

Yes, they do. Have a read of the BBC article. Here's the link again ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55244122

[dave50]

More ammunition for the anti vaccine lunatics

[Sqad]

In my book a significant allergic reaction is one that required the use of an Epipen (adrenaline) or hospitalization.