The Donald Is Back!

[Khandro]

Great speech, straight from the heart, no baloney, & no autocue. Sleepy Joe, be afraid.

https://news.sky.com/video/donald-trump-former-us-president-gives-his-first-speech-in-washington-dc-since-leaving-office-12659735

[Zacs-Master]

Then do you distance yourself from, or approve of the actions of, the people who stormed the Capitol Building, Khandro?

What do you think of Trump watching the events unfold?

[Khandro]

//What do you think of Trump watching the events unfold?//

I don't think anything, I & millions of others watched to too. What do you think?

[Zacs-Master]

What I think is irrelevant. Trump had the opportunity to intervene but didn't. As you're a Trump supporter I think it's a fair question as to what your opinion of that is.

[Khandro]

I see no logical reason for asking for the view of an antagonist than that of a supporter - in fact, more reason.

[Zacs-Master]

You're suggesting that Trump might be president again (and according to opinion polls in the US it might be likely, were he to run). Are you saying his lack of intervention to stop the Capitol Building event has no bearing on your apparent support for him?

[Khandro]

I re-post; "Under Trump, the American economy performed well. Inflation was 1.4% when he left office; petrol at 2 dollars a gallon. Under Biden inflation is 9.1% and a gallon of gas costs more than 5 dollars. The now daily flow of thousand of illegal immigrants crossing the southern borders was substantially stemmed by him, now they are flocking in again & to spare the embarrassment & cover up the fact are being re-distributed across the USA on special flights.

Trump has been much reviled on this AB website, but in hindsight however, his foreign policy looks impressive, especially against Biden's. He regularly rebuked the Germans (A.Merkel) for empowering Putin, through their reliance on Russian hydrocarbons, & when you look now at the war in Ukraine & the disastrously high energy prices in Europe, was he wrong?

A couple of weeks ago, Biden went to Saudi Arabia to beg for oil & was ignored. Trump in contrast has just hosted a Saudi-funded golf tournament on one of the golf courses he owns."

And all you can find to criticize, is that he watched rioting on tv, seemingly ignoring the fact that he was the President of the United States - what do you think he should have done?

[Untitled]

he should have called off his goons the moment they started attacking congress... instead he waited three hours to see if they were going to be successful, and then called them off without renouncing them...

why do you think he removed a line from his speech saying that the rioters did not represent him or his movement?

[FatticusInch]

I refer you to the post I made at 13.02.

[Zacs-Master]

I think he should have gone down there and pleaded for calm. I think the fact he didn't speaks volumes about his twisted mind.

I'm not ignoring the fact that he was President; I'm actually saying, as a President who made a speech which was clearly the catalyst for the storming of the building, it makes it much more than an 'all you can find' event.

If you can't see that, then I pity you, I really do.

[Untitled]

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/25/1113461598/trump-video-edits?t=1659626632407

picture there of the edits Trump made to his speech...

the phrase 'I want to be very clear. You do not represent me. You do not represent our movement.' is crossed out.... by him.

also crossed out are the parts which promise legal consequences on those who participated.

[Untitled]

it also is not true that he deployed the national guard by the way... someone else did that because Trump was mysteriously refusing to do it!

[Khandro]

If he is as guilty of all these crimes of commission & omission as you say he is, you have nothing to bother yourselves about, because they will prove beyond doubt his culpability.

Do you really think this circus is going to do that?

Trump isn't at all fazed - he calls them, 'The Unselect Committee'
ha-ha.

[Ellipsis]

> when you look now at the war in Ukraine & the disastrously high energy prices in Europe, was he wrong?

Trump's policies towards Ukraine were hardly helpful with respect to the war that was going on in Ukraine during his presidency! Talk about insensitive ... try this for starters:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/26/politics/trump-putin-ukraine/index.html

[Zacs-Master]

'Trump isn't at all fazed'

Yet another example of his unsuitability to run a country.

[Peter Pedant]

// his foreign policy looks impressive,//
no rubbish
he told the poles he was gonna withdraw from NATO
and the invasion of Ukraine ( they speak Russian right: they must be Russian) is History

as TTT so often says - dont like History - then just rewrite it!

[Peter Pedant]

// Biden went to Saudi Arabia to beg for oil & was ignored. Trump in contrast has just hosted a Saudi-funded golf tournament on one of the golf courses he owns."//
and was also ignored

[Ellipsis]

It's not really our problem, it's the USA's problem and those in the USA should want what's best for the USA. If you ask me, what would be best would be :

1) Trump declines to run again for POTUS
2) No attempt is made to prosecute Trump for the Capitol riots

Whether those two things would be related or not, who can say ...

[Zacs-Master]

If Trump becomes POTUS again, this is why:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/dumb-things-americans-have-said

Khandro's people.

[Khandro]

//It's not really our problem, it's the USA's problem and those in the USA should want what's best for the USA.//

Precisely; and there's as far as I know, only one American who has contributed to this thread, & she was quite supportive of him.

[Zacs-Master]

One American does not a president make.