'Woman' Rapes Two Women Using 'Her' Penis And Is Sent To A Woman's Jail.

[Deskdiary]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11670803/Transgender-woman-guilty-raping-two-women-man.html

Jesus wept - who agrees this is absurd?

And why the hell is the Mail referring to somebody with a penis who rapes women as 'her'?

In his most recent Netflix special, Ricky Gervais had a routine about this very scenario, which was hilarious because it was so absurd. Paraphrasing "He raped me", "you mean she raped you", "but he had a penis", "she had a penis you effing bigot". But clearly it wasn't that absurd after all!

[Ellipsis]

Well Clare, for my part, I am a heterosexual male who uses male spaces like male toilets, male changing rooms and, if I was in prison, male prisons.

If I became a trans woman I think my expectations would be: if I still had a penis then I would still use male toilets, male changing rooms and, if I was in prison, male prisons; otherwise (as a trans women with no penis) I would use the female versions; assuming that unisex or trans facilities were not available.

Do you think differently?

(Let's not get into hormones yet, just keeping it on trans women with/without penises for now.)

[ClareTGold]

It's easy to say what you think you'd do when you're only speaking hypothetically. When it's your lived experience, you might think differently.

[douglas9401]

Is 'your lived experience' similar to 'your truth'?

[ClareTGold]

Of course :)

[Ellipsis]

> It's easy to say what you think you'd do when you're only speaking hypothetically. When it's your lived experience, you might think differently.

We each have our own lived experience. I've said mine. I've also heard of other people's - friends, relatives, colleagues ... I was hoping to hear of yours.

[ClareTGold]

It depends according to the gender I'm presenting at the time. I don't think it should be related to surgery or not. After all, the point is to be just a normal person, whatever normal means.

[New Judge]

//After all, the point is to be just a normal person, whatever normal means.//

Nobody is particularly "normal" as there is no single definition. We're all different. But sometimes a person's differences mean they cannot expect to do, or be permitted to do, what the majority does. Many societal constructions are a compromise to accommodate as many people as possible. But occasionally no compromise is possible and where this is so, the majority must be the prime consideration.

See if you can help me here: do you believe a transgender girl (let's say aged around 16) should be allowed to attend an all-girls' school?

[Ellipsis]

It's not just the individual, it's also society. And society in architectural facilities like toilets, changing rooms and prisons are mostly, so far, in the basis of sex not gender.

In future think changes won't change on that; more often they'll change to unisex rather than sex-specific, I would think.

[Ellipsis]

Sorry, really mashed up on my mobile there!

[ScienceNoob]

Decisions like that are for the schools, NJ.

And, well, maybe there'll be a move towards more unisex facilities, and to a certain extent why not? But at the moment they aren't; and I've had no complaints so far.

Honestly, my conclusion is that the people on this site are far more hung up about this than the general population.

[New Judge]

//Decisions like that are for the schools, NJ.//

Why? People thinking of sending their children to single-sex schools are entitled to know what the government's policy is on such a matter and what that of the school in particular is. Or do you think not?

[kuiperbelt]

NJ/“…if you observe a body in space and draw a line to it from the earth, and then observe the same object six months later (when the Earth is on the opposite side of the Sun)…”/

If you don't mind me saying, in relation to the parsec, this is sadly lacking in a lot of detail :-)

[kuiperbelt]

TTT > 19.57

Welcome to the parsec club! :-)

[New Judge]

If you don't mind me saying, in relation to the parsec, this is sadly lacking in a lot of detail :-)

Good grief this is getting very tedious.

It wasn’t meant to be strong on detail. It was an off the cuff response to a question on numeracy:

TTT: //how many ligth years in a Parsec?//

NJ: //Something over 3 light years, IIRC, Tora (can't remember the exact figure). It's the distance at which an object will subtend an angle of 1 second when viewed from the Earth six months apart (or something like that).//

(Yes, this was wrong. By that definition it would be two seconds of an arc – corrected in a later answer, similarly lacking in detail).

But never mind, eh.

[Rosetta]

If there was a vote today of whether women want to keep their specific space to their own gender, I would put money on the outcome being yes they want that. What then gives men the right to over-rule this, even if they are confused about their own gender identity

[naomi24]

Clare, //When it's your lived experience...//

Your lived experience confirms that you're not a woman.

[Untitled]

new judge said earlier that he thought trans people needed to "deal with" how they feel... i wonder what he meant by that because it sounds like by "deal with it" he means "find a way to stop being trans and live as a cisgendered person"... but there is no such way

a trans person cannot really exist without interacting with society - using toilets and interacting with other people in a gendered way - so when people say they don't want trans people to "make demands" etc it's just a self-pitying way of saying they don't want trans people to exist at all...

clare... you are speaking to people who want you and people like you to be wiped out.

[naomi24]

^Tripe.

[gness]

Spot on, Untitled.

[fitdarren]

Rosetta 22:56 I agree.