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The early Christians were persecuted, even as Jesus had been. (John 15:20; 17:14) Historian John L. von Mosheim called first-century Christians “a set of men of the most harmless inoffensive character, who never harboured in their minds a wish or thought inimical to the welfare of the state.” Dr. Mosheim stated that what “irritated the Romans against the Christians, was the simplicity of their worship, which resembled in nothing the sacred rites of any other people.” He added: “They had no sacrifices, temples, images, oracles, or sacerdotal orders; and this was sufficient to bring upon them the reproaches of an ignorant multitude, who imagined that there could be no religion without these. Thus they were looked upon as a sort of atheists; and, by the Roman laws, those who were chargeable with atheism were declared the pests of human society.”
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Discussing religion is a waste of valuable brain energy.
This is my God and master - http://i151.photobuck...com13201567354461.jpg
We each believe our own thing and as long as it hurts nobody else then go with the flow.
This is my God and master - http://i151.photobuck...com13201567354461.jpg
We each believe our own thing and as long as it hurts nobody else then go with the flow.
naomi - that is the problem isn't it.
I, innocently, believed that religion gave a person guidance on how to have a meaningful life and on how to be kind and caring towards others. I have never been religious.
Alas religion(s) seem to cause more heartache than anything else.
"man's inhumanity to man" springs to mind. Maybe I will stick to my belief in the furry god.
I, innocently, believed that religion gave a person guidance on how to have a meaningful life and on how to be kind and caring towards others. I have never been religious.
Alas religion(s) seem to cause more heartache than anything else.
"man's inhumanity to man" springs to mind. Maybe I will stick to my belief in the furry god.
Davethedog - just seen what you said -
"The fact that you subscribe to a diety without any proof proves your not as clever as you would like to believe."
The First Church of Answerbank ( click on Ab Editor ) is the only religion to which I subscribe, and the divine attributes of Ab Editor are unquestionable - ie. those who incur his wrath are expunged are cast into the outer darkness.
And furthermore, I don't subscribe to a "diety", as I'm not a food faddist.
Come on, chaps, lighten up! <[:-)>
"The fact that you subscribe to a diety without any proof proves your not as clever as you would like to believe."
The First Church of Answerbank ( click on Ab Editor ) is the only religion to which I subscribe, and the divine attributes of Ab Editor are unquestionable - ie. those who incur his wrath are expunged are cast into the outer darkness.
And furthermore, I don't subscribe to a "diety", as I'm not a food faddist.
Come on, chaps, lighten up! <[:-)>
Yes,and when you look at a beautiful building, have you ever wondered who the builder was? If someone told you that no one had built the building, but that it had simply come into existence by itself, would you believe it? Yes, atheists do,and yet Other sources show that additional millions are influenced by philosophies that allow for the view that there is no Creator. Moreover, while hundreds of millions do believe in a Creator, their ideas about him differ radically, And in many cases their actions bring great reproach upon the One they claim to worship. and they say that there is no Supreme Intelligence is to say that the universe has evolved something higher than itself, it has created intelligence. And to think that anything can create something it does not itself possess is the most vacuous kind of empty-headed reasoning.
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Goodlife
\\Yes,and when you look at a beautiful building, have you ever wondered who the builder was? If someone told you that no one had built the building, but that it had simply come into existence by itself, would you believe it? Yes, atheists do,//
No Atheists dont!! Most Atheists will admit to not knowing exactly how the world was created. Stop making up lies about Atheists
Where as theists think that an invisible man in the sky created everything without even the slightest bit of evidence to support this idea that goes against all scientific reasoning. Now that is plain foolish!
\\Yes,and when you look at a beautiful building, have you ever wondered who the builder was? If someone told you that no one had built the building, but that it had simply come into existence by itself, would you believe it? Yes, atheists do,//
No Atheists dont!! Most Atheists will admit to not knowing exactly how the world was created. Stop making up lies about Atheists
Where as theists think that an invisible man in the sky created everything without even the slightest bit of evidence to support this idea that goes against all scientific reasoning. Now that is plain foolish!
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You could start with yourself? Where did your life come from?
There are more than 200 natural amino acids, yet only a special 20 in the proteins of living things. Even if some amino acids could result from lightning, who selected just the right 20 found in living matter? And how were they guided into the exact sequence necessary in protein? Research analyst Dr. J. F. Coppedge calculated that ‘the probability of just one protein molecule resulting from a chance arrangement of amino acids is 1 in 10287.’ (That is a figure with 287 zeros after it.) Additionally, he points out that, not one, but ‘a minimum of 239 protein molecules are required for the smallest theoretical form of life.’ Do you think that such evidence points to life as resulting from blind chance, or is it from intelligent design?and one go on and on.
So in an effort to produce life in a laboratory and thus explain how it began, chemists have sent sparks through mixtures of special gases. One result has been some amino acids (molecules of the sort that are the ‘building blocks’ of living things). Those amino acids, though, were not living. Furthermore, they were not the result of mere accident; they were produced by trained scientists under controlled conditions in modern laboratories.
There are more than 200 natural amino acids, yet only a special 20 in the proteins of living things. Even if some amino acids could result from lightning, who selected just the right 20 found in living matter? And how were they guided into the exact sequence necessary in protein? Research analyst Dr. J. F. Coppedge calculated that ‘the probability of just one protein molecule resulting from a chance arrangement of amino acids is 1 in 10287.’ (That is a figure with 287 zeros after it.) Additionally, he points out that, not one, but ‘a minimum of 239 protein molecules are required for the smallest theoretical form of life.’ Do you think that such evidence points to life as resulting from blind chance, or is it from intelligent design?and one go on and on.
So in an effort to produce life in a laboratory and thus explain how it began, chemists have sent sparks through mixtures of special gases. One result has been some amino acids (molecules of the sort that are the ‘building blocks’ of living things). Those amino acids, though, were not living. Furthermore, they were not the result of mere accident; they were produced by trained scientists under controlled conditions in modern laboratories.
goodlife:
The calculation of the probability of life from the liklhood of life in its present form appearing from combining the constituent chemicals is facile.
Life is nothing more than an incredibly complex crystal structure. Mineral crystals are simple self replicating structures. Organic life arose when carbon got involved in the minerals. The complexity of the structures became increasing complex but we are still a type of crystal structure.
Highly likely candidates for the transition from minerals to life are found in "White Smokers". These are alkaline ocean floor hydrothermal vents in Olivine strata. The process of converting this rock to Serpentine involves the exact same chemical process as the universal metabolic reaction in every living creature. It occurs in the rock in tiny pores very similar in size to the simplest forms of life.
The origin of the Big Bang and the event sthat led to life will be exposed one day. The more fact science shows the more ridiculous your religous practices will appear to each new generation.
Religion is ultimately doomed. The only thing that could stop that decline is the onset of their cherished Armageddon where they go out and kill the infidels in the name of their God.
The "fervor" of my atheism is is about circumventing that path in as few a generations as possible. Fortuntely the faithful contributors here make it easy to demonstrate the ridiculous nature of their pointless obsession with an imaginary supernatural being for which no eveidence exists and is demonstrably entirely superfluous to any rational explanation of our existence.
The calculation of the probability of life from the liklhood of life in its present form appearing from combining the constituent chemicals is facile.
Life is nothing more than an incredibly complex crystal structure. Mineral crystals are simple self replicating structures. Organic life arose when carbon got involved in the minerals. The complexity of the structures became increasing complex but we are still a type of crystal structure.
Highly likely candidates for the transition from minerals to life are found in "White Smokers". These are alkaline ocean floor hydrothermal vents in Olivine strata. The process of converting this rock to Serpentine involves the exact same chemical process as the universal metabolic reaction in every living creature. It occurs in the rock in tiny pores very similar in size to the simplest forms of life.
The origin of the Big Bang and the event sthat led to life will be exposed one day. The more fact science shows the more ridiculous your religous practices will appear to each new generation.
Religion is ultimately doomed. The only thing that could stop that decline is the onset of their cherished Armageddon where they go out and kill the infidels in the name of their God.
The "fervor" of my atheism is is about circumventing that path in as few a generations as possible. Fortuntely the faithful contributors here make it easy to demonstrate the ridiculous nature of their pointless obsession with an imaginary supernatural being for which no eveidence exists and is demonstrably entirely superfluous to any rational explanation of our existence.
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