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The early Christians were persecuted, even as Jesus had been. (John 15:20; 17:14) Historian John L. von Mosheim called first-century Christians “a set of men of the most harmless inoffensive character, who never harboured in their minds a wish or thought inimical to the welfare of the state.” Dr. Mosheim stated that what “irritated the Romans against the Christians, was the simplicity of their worship, which resembled in nothing the sacred rites of any other people.” He added: “They had no sacrifices, temples, images, oracles, or sacerdotal orders; and this was sufficient to bring upon them the reproaches of an ignorant multitude, who imagined that there could be no religion without these. Thus they were looked upon as a sort of atheists; and, by the Roman laws, those who were chargeable with atheism were declared the pests of human society.”
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Like said Some people believing in The Tooth Fairy and sound like Atheism
if you take the top-notch scientists, you find very few atheists among them.” Neither the advances of science nor the failure of religion need force us to abandon belief in a Creator.
And if you got brains a person cannot escape the fact that religion has come down through history to us from our ancestors. And since religion is so inseparably linked with history, it logically follows that if we trace history back far enough it will lead us to the first human ancestor, and this, in turn, will bring us to the first religious path. Who, then, was that first man? And what was his religion?
if you take the top-notch scientists, you find very few atheists among them.” Neither the advances of science nor the failure of religion need force us to abandon belief in a Creator.
And if you got brains a person cannot escape the fact that religion has come down through history to us from our ancestors. And since religion is so inseparably linked with history, it logically follows that if we trace history back far enough it will lead us to the first human ancestor, and this, in turn, will bring us to the first religious path. Who, then, was that first man? And what was his religion?
You could right, from a perspective, more than two-and-a-half millenniums after Isaiah delivered his prophecy,
we can see that Isaiah proceeds to show that image makers are completely dependent on natural processes and materials that God created: “There is one whose business is to cut down cedars; and he takes a certain species of tree, even a massive tree, and he lets it become strong for himself among the trees of the forest. He planted the laurel tree, and the pouring rain itself keeps making it get big. And it has become something for man to keep a fire burning. So he takes part of it that he may warm himself. In fact he builds a fire and actually bakes bread. He also works on a god to which he may bow down. He has made it into a carved image, and he prostrates himself to it. Half of it he actually burns up in a fire. Upon half of it he roasts well the flesh that he eats, and he becomes satisfied. He also warms himself and says: ‘Aha! I have warmed myself. I have seen the firelight.’ But the remainder of it he actually makes into a god itself, into his carved image. He prostrates himself to it and bows down and prays to it and says: ‘Deliver me, for you are my god.’”—Isaiah 44:14-17.
we can see that Isaiah proceeds to show that image makers are completely dependent on natural processes and materials that God created: “There is one whose business is to cut down cedars; and he takes a certain species of tree, even a massive tree, and he lets it become strong for himself among the trees of the forest. He planted the laurel tree, and the pouring rain itself keeps making it get big. And it has become something for man to keep a fire burning. So he takes part of it that he may warm himself. In fact he builds a fire and actually bakes bread. He also works on a god to which he may bow down. He has made it into a carved image, and he prostrates himself to it. Half of it he actually burns up in a fire. Upon half of it he roasts well the flesh that he eats, and he becomes satisfied. He also warms himself and says: ‘Aha! I have warmed myself. I have seen the firelight.’ But the remainder of it he actually makes into a god itself, into his carved image. He prostrates himself to it and bows down and prays to it and says: ‘Deliver me, for you are my god.’”—Isaiah 44:14-17.
Goodlife, that's because you keep bombarding us with waffle and biblical texts and references. Rather than let unknown writers from the depths of antiquity speak for you, which is what you are doing, say what you mean. Then you might have a chance of getting your point across - and we just might have a chance of understanding what you're saying before our eyes glaze over.
You need to understand that Men didn't just 'appear', goodlife. Like all life, Men gradually evolved from ancestors similar to the ones that the present apes did. This takes thousands of generations, and as the planet's land still had land bridges to the main continents, Men spread wide and far, even braving the oceans to colonise many larger islands.
Of course, if you can not except this then your thinking grasps for other explanations and religion is a popular choice. You surely have to admit that as the average person is becoming more informed, religion is declining worldwide.
Some radicals go to extreme lengths in frustration and revert back to the primitive method of destroying those who do not subscribe to similar beliefs.
Of course, if you can not except this then your thinking grasps for other explanations and religion is a popular choice. You surely have to admit that as the average person is becoming more informed, religion is declining worldwide.
Some radicals go to extreme lengths in frustration and revert back to the primitive method of destroying those who do not subscribe to similar beliefs.
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No it is not God but man. The historical facts prove that conditions have progressively gone from bad to worse.
Hundreds of thousands died on the battlefields. Tens of millions more died of pestilence and disease?
Do you see no people homeless, poverty or millions starving to death?
And in case you are wondering, the recent England riots - has man solved the problem?
Even inthe medical field man for all his scientific knowledge has not brought about an end to all the diseases.
Whatever government is in power they cannot solve these problems, they cannot bring an end to old age and death.
More recently, the crisis over the euro. The governments cannot even solve a problem regarding currency. No! man cannot bring an end to these things. And I could go on and on...
Wildwood@ If you would like to think your ancestors are apes, so be it. I would much prefer to think that my ancesters were humans who could think and reason for themselves - which is basically the reason we have so many problems on the earth today. Their choice has brought us to this end and it now needs a higher power than man to solve the problems
Hundreds of thousands died on the battlefields. Tens of millions more died of pestilence and disease?
Do you see no people homeless, poverty or millions starving to death?
And in case you are wondering, the recent England riots - has man solved the problem?
Even inthe medical field man for all his scientific knowledge has not brought about an end to all the diseases.
Whatever government is in power they cannot solve these problems, they cannot bring an end to old age and death.
More recently, the crisis over the euro. The governments cannot even solve a problem regarding currency. No! man cannot bring an end to these things. And I could go on and on...
Wildwood@ If you would like to think your ancestors are apes, so be it. I would much prefer to think that my ancesters were humans who could think and reason for themselves - which is basically the reason we have so many problems on the earth today. Their choice has brought us to this end and it now needs a higher power than man to solve the problems
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