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End Of Grid Girls......
....In Formula 1
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"While the practice of employing grid girls has been a staple of Formula 1 grands prix for decades, we feel this custom does not resonate with our brand values and clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms," Bratches added.
Do you agree or not , with the move ?
Should the ban be extended to other Motor Sports formulas ?
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"While the practice of employing grid girls has been a staple of Formula 1 grands prix for decades, we feel this custom does not resonate with our brand values and clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms," Bratches added.
Do you agree or not , with the move ?
Should the ban be extended to other Motor Sports formulas ?
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The days of women parading in skimpy costumes for no reason other than decoration, are OVER.
F1, darts, horse racing, and all other sports will stop eventually and probably by the end of the year. Lets not use a concern for the girls' livelihood as an excuse, there are many professions that are no longer acceptable even if there are a few people who are willing.
F1, darts, horse racing, and all other sports will stop eventually and probably by the end of the year. Lets not use a concern for the girls' livelihood as an excuse, there are many professions that are no longer acceptable even if there are a few people who are willing.
> The days of women parading in skimpy costumes for no reason other than decoration, are OVER.
Who says the reason? And who says they're over?
These bans would be more at home in Saudi Arabia - or Bahrain which, given we are talking about F1, is closer to the issue.
People really need to figure out whether they want a tolerant and open society or a repressive and intolerant one.
Who says the reason? And who says they're over?
These bans would be more at home in Saudi Arabia - or Bahrain which, given we are talking about F1, is closer to the issue.
People really need to figure out whether they want a tolerant and open society or a repressive and intolerant one.
Ellipsis - // People really need to figure out whether they want a tolerant and open society or a repressive and intolerant one. //
Then they can figure out if women walking around so they can be ogled by strange men is their idea of a tolerant and open society, or a repressive and intolerant one.
Openness and tolerance does not equate with facilitating rich men in their urge to gawp at pretty strangers who are there purely and simply to be gawped at.
Then they can figure out if women walking around so they can be ogled by strange men is their idea of a tolerant and open society, or a repressive and intolerant one.
Openness and tolerance does not equate with facilitating rich men in their urge to gawp at pretty strangers who are there purely and simply to be gawped at.
> Then they can figure out if women walking around so they can be ogled by strange men is their idea of a tolerant and open society, or a repressive and intolerant one.
OK well that's nonsense, especially coming from your Daisy-Lowe-in-a-bikini-obsessed self, but rather than dwell on that let's look at the opposite:
> Then they can figure out if women walking around so they cannot be ogled by strange men is their idea of a tolerant and open society, or a repressive and intolerant one.
i.e. cannot be ogled = wearing a burka. Should women be allowed to walk around in burkas but not in skimpy outfits?
Women (and men for that matter) are free to wear what they want, andy-hughes. If they want to wear skimpy outfits, or jeans, or a burka, as long as it's their choice, that's fine. That an open, tolerant and civilised society. Forcing your standards upon women is repressive.
OK well that's nonsense, especially coming from your Daisy-Lowe-in-a-bikini-obsessed self, but rather than dwell on that let's look at the opposite:
> Then they can figure out if women walking around so they cannot be ogled by strange men is their idea of a tolerant and open society, or a repressive and intolerant one.
i.e. cannot be ogled = wearing a burka. Should women be allowed to walk around in burkas but not in skimpy outfits?
Women (and men for that matter) are free to wear what they want, andy-hughes. If they want to wear skimpy outfits, or jeans, or a burka, as long as it's their choice, that's fine. That an open, tolerant and civilised society. Forcing your standards upon women is repressive.
I do hope the proposal is not to stop young women (or older ones, for that matter) wearing sexy clothes if they want to. What seems to be sticking in the craw of the new Mary Whitehouses is that that somebody is willing to pay women to appear at certain events looking sexy. So the Whitehouses are attempting not only to dictate what women wear, but to interfere in the operation of the free market.
Well, let's take this example: Hollywood been producing soft-porn films for fifty years now. Attractive young women are paid a lot of money to perform simulated sex on screen. Presumably this is to attract gawpers and oglers. Should we stop this because it is not consonant with the ethos and social norms acceptable to the Whitehouses?
Another example: what about the music industry which frequently goes even further down the path of porn. Here's an example:
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A lot of people with the same "ethos", but a greater sense of moral purpose might find that video extremely offensive. And who knows where thaqt could end up.
Well, let's take this example: Hollywood been producing soft-porn films for fifty years now. Attractive young women are paid a lot of money to perform simulated sex on screen. Presumably this is to attract gawpers and oglers. Should we stop this because it is not consonant with the ethos and social norms acceptable to the Whitehouses?
Another example: what about the music industry which frequently goes even further down the path of porn. Here's an example:
https:/
A lot of people with the same "ethos", but a greater sense of moral purpose might find that video extremely offensive. And who knows where thaqt could end up.
Ellipsis - // OK well that's nonsense, especially coming from your Daisy-Lowe-in-a-bikini-obsessed self, but rather than dwell on that let's look at the opposite: //
I posted one (hardly 'obsessive'!) post about Ms Lowe in a bikini - and of course, in order to be hostile, you need to miss the point I made at the time -which of course, you have -
I asked with heavy irony if anyone had any bikini images of Ms. Lowe, because I was pointing out that The Mail Online had posted (if memory serves, so you'll know this better than I of course) something in the region of nineteen pictures, which I think is eighteen more than anyone could reasonably need to see, except those who rely on the MOL's daily diet of sexist pap for titillation.
I posted one (hardly 'obsessive'!) post about Ms Lowe in a bikini - and of course, in order to be hostile, you need to miss the point I made at the time -which of course, you have -
I asked with heavy irony if anyone had any bikini images of Ms. Lowe, because I was pointing out that The Mail Online had posted (if memory serves, so you'll know this better than I of course) something in the region of nineteen pictures, which I think is eighteen more than anyone could reasonably need to see, except those who rely on the MOL's daily diet of sexist pap for titillation.
vetuste - // I do hope the proposal is not to stop young women (or older ones, for that matter) wearing sexy clothes if they want to. What seems to be sticking in the craw of the new Mary Whitehouses is that that somebody is willing to pay women to appear at certain events looking sexy. So the Whitehouses are attempting not only to dictate what women wear, but to interfere in the operation of the free market.
Well, let's take this example: Hollywood been producing soft-porn films for fifty years now. Attractive young women are paid a lot of money to perform simulated sex on screen. Presumably this is to attract gawpers and oglers. Should we stop this because it is not consonant with the ethos and social norms acceptable to the Whitehouses? //
I think your example is stretching the point you are making to the level where it ceases to be appropriate.
The reason why Grid Girls are being seen as no longer relavent, is because they are an unecessary 'add-on' to the places at which they appear - Formula One race meetings.
They are not the reason why people attend, they are a throw-back to earlier less-enlightened times when women were seen as decoration and titilation for men.
In 2018, Formula One has decided that such an attitude to women does not resonate with current cultural attitudes towards women as equals, so it has decided to dispense with this time-warp frippery.
Now you - and others - can parlay that into some huge and significant restraint-of-trade / subjugation (there's an irony!, or you can accept it for what it actually is - a reaction to an overall shift in the perceptions of men towards women in a positive direction.
The naysayers are the ones getting their knickers in a twist by seeing this lapse of using women as totty as (and there's that irony again!) - some sort of effort to stop women expressing themsleves.
If respect for women not tottering around grinning inanely at leching men makes me a 'Whitehouse', I can live with it.
Well, let's take this example: Hollywood been producing soft-porn films for fifty years now. Attractive young women are paid a lot of money to perform simulated sex on screen. Presumably this is to attract gawpers and oglers. Should we stop this because it is not consonant with the ethos and social norms acceptable to the Whitehouses? //
I think your example is stretching the point you are making to the level where it ceases to be appropriate.
The reason why Grid Girls are being seen as no longer relavent, is because they are an unecessary 'add-on' to the places at which they appear - Formula One race meetings.
They are not the reason why people attend, they are a throw-back to earlier less-enlightened times when women were seen as decoration and titilation for men.
In 2018, Formula One has decided that such an attitude to women does not resonate with current cultural attitudes towards women as equals, so it has decided to dispense with this time-warp frippery.
Now you - and others - can parlay that into some huge and significant restraint-of-trade / subjugation (there's an irony!, or you can accept it for what it actually is - a reaction to an overall shift in the perceptions of men towards women in a positive direction.
The naysayers are the ones getting their knickers in a twist by seeing this lapse of using women as totty as (and there's that irony again!) - some sort of effort to stop women expressing themsleves.
If respect for women not tottering around grinning inanely at leching men makes me a 'Whitehouse', I can live with it.
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As I said in an earlier post, this is not an indication of a civilised society - it's F1! Grid girls, the Daily Mail and trashy TV are continuing in British society, which is more civilised than most. Events such as the British Touring Car Championship and British Superbikes have made no move to ban grid girls. This move is not about the girls it's about the money - from the Middle East, India and China. F1 does not wish to offend those societies. This is a wholly repressive move, which has happened to come at a time when Weinstein, The Presidents Club and #metoo can be confused with it. Re-watch "The Accused" if you need a reminder of the difference.
repressive, Ellipsis? Surely any organisation is at liberty to impose its own dress codes? There may be legal limits to this, but that doesn't apply here. If they want to sell their product abroad, they need to consider their customers' views. That doesn't mean all women they employ will have to wear burqas
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