Harry And Meghan -V- The Bbc

[naomi24]

//Buckingham Palace has become embroiled in a row over whether the Queen was consulted over the naming of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s daughter.//

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/09/harry-and-meghan-push-back-at-claim-queen-not-consulted-on-lilibet-name

Reading through this report it appears that Harry told the queen of their intention to name their daughter Lilibet, but contrary to their claim they didn’t actually seek her permission.

Goodness knows where all this controversy with those two will end, but the plot thickens.

[Peter Pedant]

Oh names - yes - forgot
governed by Letters Patent - Victoria was a Hanoverian ( but lost out on german possessions in Hanover which went to men ) except Heligoland which she sold 1860 I think

Victoria married and became the first Saxe Coburg Gotha. George V d.1935 the first to use 'Lilibet', more famous for using bagga bognor as his last words, changed the Name to Windsor 1917.

and so..... when Lilibet married Phil the Greek Prince of Greece and Denmark, Lds Louis Mountbatten ( note surname) was VERY keen that the house name should change to Mountbatten Windsor

Literally no one else was in the country

and so in 1962 - they decided that the House of Windsor cd call itself what it liked and stayed with Windsor. House OF Windsor note so the Royals have no surnames ( unlike Tudors and Stuarts)
AND
anyone in need of a surname, wivvart a title could take Mountbatten-Windsor. Hence Archewell and Lilibet M-W

Christian names - no rules but Edward as the name of a King isnt a great winner ( Edw VI - died young - Edw VII notorious luch, Edw VIII m a woman with two husbands still living, and was a nazi )
Oliver - whoopsie - I thought Diana was 'persuaded' no. No one has tried 'adolf' - - yet

usually it is agreed.

[pixie374]

Well, from PP's post- no protocol. Out of courtesy and respect,they asked her first.
And the apparent disagreement between a couple of Palace employees, is purely superfluous and nothing but stirring. What a surprise.

[THECORBYLOON]

PP, you're behind the times.

Under the 2013 Succession to the Crown Act,

"A person who (when the person marries) is one of the 6 persons next in the line of succession to the Crown must obtain the consent of Her Majesty before marrying."

[pixie374]

She isn't within the 6 anyway.

[bednobs]

eff that! i'll call my own child whatever i want

[Barmaid]

I think the young lady is damn lucky that she was not named after the DoE's personal nickname for his wife, which is (reportedly) "Cabbage".

[naomi24]

We don’t know if they asked her or told her pixie ... big difference. That’s why there’s a problem.

[Peter Pedant]

hi Corbo
yeah it was in the back of my mind but chrissakes this is AB

but Corbo - you are quite right ....

[pixie374]

A problem for who? If you believe your own link and your own posts, the Queen was consulted and unofficially approved. Apparently, no need for official approval.

[Peter Pedant]

Hi Barmaid
when I read the bit about the card at ye Dook's funeral- - lilibet
I wondered if it should read Cabbage

George V and Mary ( May ) always spoke on 'phone if separated.
One day she opend with the usual: Hello you old fool
and heard a voice of an operator: his majesty is not yet on the line....

[naomi24]

Pixie, See my post at 18.45.

[pixie374]

I answered that.

[naomi24]

My post wasn’t about official approval. It was about courtesy, respect and protocol — and we don’t know that the queen gave unofficial approval.

[Peter Pedant]

// and we don’t know that the queen gave unofficial approval.//
apart from a palace flunkey saying no - deffo no

( unless unofficial approval is - "yes oK but if pressed I shall say no" - O god you may tell AB by its posts)

[tomus42]

Who cares? They're not part of the royal family any more. They've been ostracised. Why would they seek anyone's permission to name their child?

It's only the people that wish they would go away that can't seem to stop talking about them.

[naomi24]

Tomas, They are the authors of their own misfortune and whether you care or not depends upon your own standards. If you don’t care about the reputation of your country and of the royal family being sullied by lies and hypocrisy that’s your choice. It's not mine.

[Ken4155]

The Royal Family do very well sullying their own reputations by lies and hypocrisy without any outside help, thank you kindly.

[naomi24]

Meghan and Harry have certainly managed that.

[Ken4155]

I blame the parents.

[naomi24]

So do they.