Brexit Won't Happen Before Scotland's Views Are Considered

[Zacs-Master]

What do we think May's tactics are here?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/theresa-may-flies-to-edinburgh-to-tell-scots-that-she-believes-w/

[Peter Pedant]

// Zacs....but Scotland cannotexist out of Britain as an independent nation //

well Nicola says it can because she wants so badly to be a prime minister and sit at the top table in Europe

and Sotland can be independent so long as Niccy ensures she has a hand in the english tax payers pocket - or should that be - prime minister's hand bag ?

[-Talbot-]

erm St Nige ( £350m a week to the NHS - oh oops I shouldnt have said that ]


PP, why on earth do you keep saying that?

[1ozzy]

Too true Anne.

There will also be ongoing discussions on many subjects that lead nowhere, except in circles ;-/

[jim360]

Given Theresa May's line about how "the Scottish people sent a very clear message" in the Scottish Independence referendum, it would be massively hypocritical of her to never start the Brexit process. I suppose it's reasonable, with a new department being created for the purpose, to wait for that department to be set up properly at least. I guess that will be a few months in the creation, probably including some level of planning, so that 2016 will have passed before we actually do anything about the vote.

[Peter Pedant]

// erm St Nige ( £350m a week to the NHS - oh oops I shouldnt have said that ] ....... PP, why on earth do you keep saying that? //

because it was true .....

and shows what an ickle liar he was - here ! be educated !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOT0KXlDkDs

[Peter Pedant]

repeated
just for slow learners
and didja catch his last phrase
'may be even relating with the old commonwealth'

unfortunately we dont know - actually we do know- the old commonwealth showed no interest in an ABC relationship at all ( Oz-Britain-Canada )

o God I love these comedy clips .... the only issue is that we may well have to relive them as tragedy ( K Marx, twisted a bit )

[BAKERS DOZEN]

Maybe naive but my thoughts are that the whole of the UK will leave the EU. Scotland can then have another referendum to leave the UK and if the vote goes for leave then then can leave and apply to join the EU in their own right. Don't think that is quick enough for Mrs Scotland. She'll be long gone by then. It will take years.

[Gromit]

650 MPs were democratically elected and 3/4 of them do not want to Brexit. So there will be lots of heel dragging, inertia and lack of urgency to impliment something they don't want.
The team of Brexit Ministers are nicely corraled in an ivory tower. When they emerge the rest of the Government and then parliament have to agree with them. And they won't.

[-Talbot-]

Peter Pedant
// erm St Nige ( £350m a week to the NHS - oh oops I shouldnt have said that ] ....... PP, why on earth do you keep saying that? //

because it was true .....

and shows what an ickle liar he was - here ! be educated !






Why have you posted that video?

[dannyk13]

If there is too much delay I can envisage the EU changing the rules so that it can enact Article 50 itself

[naomi24]

Peter Pedant, Why is that stupid argument rattling on? "Let's fund our NHS" does not equate to a promise. The people who made the suggestion were not in a position to make promises. Stop being ridiculous.

[Kathyan]

In the Scottish referendum just over 2m voted to remain in the UK. In the EU referendum 1.6m voted to remain in the EU. Is this really a mandate for her saying the majority of Scots want to remain in the EU?

[maggiebee]

Alba gu brath!

[Gromit]

// I can envisage the EU changing the rules so that it can enact Article 50 itself //

Except it does not want us to leave.

[dannyk13]

Then why is it always urging us to hurry up with Article 50?

[jim360]

Perhaps they shouldn't have emblazoned the bus with the "suggestion" then? Never mind that the £350 million figure isn't even correct. What's so sad is that it didn't even need to be the figure they stuck with -- anything that sounds like "so-many-hundreds of millions" would be equally large in listeners' heads, so they could have stuck with the ~£170 million figure with no effects to the central message -- other than being truthful this time.

However much Brexit supporters bang on about the perceived dishonesty of "Project Fear" (and some of those, eg the emergency budget proposal of Osborne's, have turned out to be exactly that), it would be nice if they could hold the lead campaign of their own position to account in the same way. Whether "let's give £350 million more to the NHS" is technically a promise or not, it was incredibly misleading, and should be denounced as such.

[naomi24]

Jim, //What's so sad is...// ... that people perceived it to be a promise. It wasn't worded as a promise and given a moment's thought anyone with half a brain would realise it couldn't possibly be a promise. I'm fed up with hearing this nonsense.

[Gromit]

// Then why is it always urging us to hurry up with Article 50? //

So negotiations can start. What we have now is a vacuum.
the EU abhors a vaccuum, particularly Mr Dyson's ones.

[-Talbot-]

For Funks Sake It was never a promise of Nigel Farage

Either put up concrete evidence that he promised it to the NHS or admit he didn't promise any such thing.

[-Talbot-]

PP may as well have put up a video of a Honey Badger riding a unicycle if that is his proof.